Cómo arreglar US Soccer – Parte 9 – ¿Qué es Pay-to-Play y por qué USA Soccer usa un modelo Pay-to-Play?



Cómo solucionar el fútbol de EE. UU. – Cómo solucionar el USMNT – Cómo solucionar el problema de la Federación de Fútbol de los EE. UU. – como quieras decirlo, es evidente que el fútbol de los EE. UU. tiene algunos problemas importantes. (Teniendo en cuenta que vimos a EE. UU. eliminado de la Copa Mundial 2018, ¡esa es una declaración fácil de hacer!) Uno de los temas más importantes de los que se habla es el pago por jugar en US Soccer. Este es un tema enorme, así que voy a tomar una parte de él a la vez para hablar. Hoy definimos qué es pay-to-play e identificamos una (¡no TODAS!) de las razones por las que existe. También hay una pregunta para ti al final del episodio. Me encantaría recibir tus pensamientos en los comentarios. *** Únete a la Discord de la comunidad de Gray Hair Gaming: *** Sígueme en Twitter: ***

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28 opiniones en “Cómo arreglar US Soccer – Parte 9 – ¿Qué es Pay-to-Play y por qué USA Soccer usa un modelo Pay-to-Play?”

  1. Oh another topic to research is the licensing for a pro team in metropolitan areas. Apparently there are government limitations on how many professional teams can be in an area based on population. I believe it is divided by counties in CA. In other words, a business man can buy the rights to own a professional sports team in the area, he may not have competition allowed based on the population. Only applying to same sports of course. Not a free market

  2. I came across this video in 2021 because I just found out that if my daughter wants to play with an ECNL team it is between $7-10k a year. That is absurd and a shame. So much talent and potential will be gone to waste due to the absorbent cost to get to “the next level”. I have been reading and watching videos on pay to play for the past 3 – 4 hours 🤯

  3. US soccer needs European clubs to come in and create their own US-based Academies (with their own league & cup competition), to sweep up the talent that's being priced out of your own game and take it abroad to develop properly. Within a decade, I predict 75-80% of the USMNT will come from this Academy League and not the MLS.

  4. united states soccer is so crap to play it cost my parents so much to put me through club and playing on public fields is almost inaccessible because you get kicked off club fields so easy as well as school fields. Also i knew a lot of talented kids who couldn't afford club in my area and were forced to only play hs soccer which i feel bad for them because high school quality soccer is no where near club quality.

  5. I watched the video and I see why its expensive. The question I have is how is it different for other sports in America? For example, is Basketball for youth cheaper than soccer? and if so why can it be cheaper than soccer? I appreciate if anyone can answer my question.

  6. I’ve seen so many good players just stop playing because they weren’t playing on a development academy team cause they couldn’t afford it. In my high school we had a mix of club players and some academy players (if their academy let them play) and the club players were as good if not better. They just can’t afford to play. Either the academy has a max sponsorship already or they can’t afford to get on the team. It’s so sad because this is exactly why the U.S is not a super power when it comes to soccer (women are different because other countries havnt caught up to women playing). The saddest part of all of this…it isn’t going to change.

  7. To make a difference, game of soccer (football) has to be free. You need to have free of rent / 24/7 open fields to play, but on the bright side you dont need to have profesional full field, small Futsal field is enough, to encourage kids to play, compete, try out things they seen on TV watching their idols. You need to motivate kids further. Also USA has a bad approach to soccer (football), clubs should not exist as franchise, it might work for basketball, baseball, hockey, but you guys have no rivalry in soccer at early age like we European's or South American's and African's do, for example we have amateur leagues that you play at young age, if you talented you progress to smaller semi/amateur clubs (not franchise) and your only cost is equipment, sometimes clubs even give you equipment, but it all begins early age, on the streets, on those small Futsal rent free fields….

  8. Whatever happened to sports in junior high and high school, which effectively trained football, baseball, basketball and Olympic athletes for generations? Those were always free and were where the best kids played. Below that were Little League teams that were very very cheap. And of course college teams provided free continuing training (with the bonus of a free college education) to the top kids coming out of high school. The very best prospects can always be signed by the pro clubs at any point. These expensive youth clubs are just nonsense designed to make a buck for wannabe soccer magnates.

  9. Is it pay to play the issue or is it american culture? the pampered tatoo millionaires?

    If it cost $5k per season to play, its likely that you as a coach wont be able to keep that entire team together for "long term development". This is why the coaches focus on wining so they can use that as a marketing tool to recruit more wealthy parents who can afford to play multi seasons…. Now add to this the fact that kids cant drive themselves to practice, so they have to rely on soccer mom who also has 4 other kids to take care of and cant make it to all the practices….. How do you focus on technical training when you only have about 1hr or so per session to also teach tactics and goalkeeper training? Not enough time to focus on the individual players.

    Now lets say you have a team of millionaire kids who can afford to pay for multiple seasons at your club… Do you think these silver spoon kids have the grit and determination to do what it takes to be the best? Team USA mens soccer is filled with rich yuppies from suburbia soccer clubs… Look at the hot mess the mens national team is.

    Yes its true you dont have to be 6ft5 275lbs to play, but lets be honest.. Clubs and talent scouts are not going to look at you or the average vanilla midget player with no speed or muscle,flair and charisma.

  10. It's just such big problem with the USA in general though. Just the fact that "someone's getting sued" is even something you have to worry about is just crazy to Europeans. If a kid breaks his leg playing football here, it won't cost the family a thing due to "free" (tax paid) healthcare so what on earth would they sue anyone for? Over here you can't just make up shit claims about "For pain and suffering" or whatever whenever you get hurt, it'll just be rejected by the courts.

    On top of that it's not my fault if you make a crazy tackle or fall over stupidly on my football field or whatever, that's a risk you take when you decide to play football, sometimes people get injured. If you can't live with that risk, don't play football.
    You see a similar issue with things like skateboarding as well I've noticed. People don't want people to skate on their parking lot or whatever because they might fall and get hurt. Over here that's a non-issue, as it's not considered the company's fault if someone skates and gets hurt simply because it happened on their property. Don't skate if you can't accept the risk of getting hurt.

    That's why you'll also see more "dangerous" (They're not really dangerous but probably more so than in the USA) playgrounds, parks, skate parks, football fields with free access, parkour parks etc. over here. If you decide to use the parkour park, you accept the fact that may get hurt, period. It's no one else's fault if you fall down and break a leg but on the other hand it also won't cost you anything to get it fixed.

    That whole thing comes down to your for-profit healthcare system though, if a medical procedure can basically bankrupt a family, of course they're going to try to get others to pay for it, why wouldn't they? The system basically encourages people to always blame someone else.

    It's not like every little club out there gets any solidarity payments after all, not even close. The vast majority of football players never become pro after all. It's more about the government/state actively wanting to encourage physical activity for the population, and especially for kids.
    We have non-profit clubs everywhere in the country here in Denmark, pretty much every little town with 1000+ people or whatever has a sports club that's non-profit. The commune (county maybe?) usually owns and maintains the football fields so the club basically just runs it for them. That means that every little club doesn't have to have their own "green keeper", own park-sized lawnmower etc. as the commune has a couple of guys driving around from town to town and maintaining all the fields.

    On top of that the state also runs what's essentially a "gambling company" of sorts. A bit like Powerball in the USA I think. 10% of all profits are spread out among all the sports clubs in Denmark.

    We also seem more focused on volunteering when it comes to sports I think. I used to coach U15-U19 and all I got was my transportation costs covered and a yearly "gift" of around $500. I wasn't in it for the money but for the enjoyment.
    The parents buy their kids the football boots, the training clothes etc. and a local company will sponsor the match clothes etc. and will have their company name and stuff printed on the front of the jerseys.
    Depending on the club, either the club will wash the match clothes or the parents will take turns doing it and just bring it back for the next match.
    The parents will also take turns driving the team to away matches.

    It really can be done very cheaply if a country decides

    I'm not an "A level coach" or whatever at all but you also don't need that for lower tier amateur stuff, that's complete overkill. Any person who has played the game himself and knows about tactics and stuff will be able to coach a bunch of "nobodies" and make them better. We're not talking about the top tier teams' talent department here after all, we're talking about a local amateur club that anyone can sign up for. Every year there'd be options to take more coaching "badges" which the club would cover fully for any coach in club so you can just slowly progress up the "ladder" without it costing you anything. So you get your coaching "badges" and experience from actually coaching teams.

    The total cost per kid (well, teenager in my case..) was around €50 per season. If a kid was from a really poor family (none of ours were, they were just average kids from average families) you could even get the costs covered.

  11. A few years late to this party, but as someone who plays ice hockey at a relatively high level, only a couple thousand a year would be nice. Our non travel teams (house or in city) is like 1000 a year and travel for like 15u and on is like 10 thousand per year. Then the pro teams and national teams wonder why it’s dying out. Soccer is supposed to be something for everyone, you don’t have 2,000 dollars worth of equipment to buy, you just need a ball, cleats and shin guards, charging that much is ridiculous and seeing how it is in other countries makes it obvious that until something changes us soccer is never going to be competitive

  12. Here in Brazil it's pay to play. Only big clubs' main academy pay for the youngsters instead of getting paid.

    Most of kids play in the street and the public futsal pitch, but many go to what we call "escolinha" which literally means little school, it is where soccer professors are and it's not just paid but usually it is in a 7-a-side field with artificial grass. It's where our players get their first lessons, before they move to a proper club academy.

  13. How are basketball and football so successful in America? Well it not due to the club team but it because young low income kids can play basketball and football for free or low fee in schools. Many American kids play soccer at a young but soon fall into other sports because their parents don't have to do much for their kid to be on a school team. The usa needs to start having competitive soccer teams in school staring at a young age all the way to college just like basketball and football. I had a scccer team in me my middle school but it wasn't very competitive because many players went to Club teams.I could have played club during middle school but the cost was too much and because of that all the kids who played culd during middle school got way better than me by the time we started high school where the level of soccer is better.

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